It wouldn't be a bad idea for the Diridon Station design team and the A's ballpark design team to swap images, as it would help the public visualize the possibilities within the area. In Anaheim, they aren't reusing an existing historic station as would happen in San Jose. Instead, a new, modern structure that looks like a huge blimp hangar would be used. It's all part of a plan to do a great deal of infill development in the "Platinum Triangle" area of Anaheim.
Speaking of planning, San Jose's third Good Neighbor committee session started a couple of hours ago. I haven't attended any of the sessions, though I plan to be at one of the last two, which will be held on the following dates:
Good Neighbor Committee Meeting #4In addition, a Diridon site walking tour is planned for August 19, also at 6 p.m.
Thurs., August 13 at 6 p.m.
City Hall Wing
200 E Santa Clara St
Good Neighbor Committee Meeting #5
Thurs., August 27 at 6 p.m.
City Hall Wing
200 E Santa Clara St
If you haven't checked out the San Jose Redevelopment Agency's ballpark website, it has a few items worth viewing. Of chief interest is the planning study handout, which shows just how extensive the broader development area is.
There's also a depiction of the new Autumn Parkway layout, if you're interested.
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I think the voters will most likely shoot this down. To many residents losing homes. Also, Bill Nuke'im and his territorial rights will most likely stay intact. I guess it might be Oakland or bust.
Dang it! I wanted that station to be closer to Disneyland... :)
The San Jose Redevelopment Agency is really putting it's best foot forward. I really like the idea of a yard in that area, walking around the site you can see it rising up in your mind's eye... For me, it feels a lot like the time I went and walked around the Uptown site in Oakland back in 2002 or so.
Back then, walking around where the Uptown park and entertainment district could have been, it felt like a no brainer.
I hate you Jerry Brown.
FYI, from last night's meeting: the August 13th meeting is canceled. There will be two meetings per month until Spring 2010.
Yeah I liked the Uptown idea too
Anon 6:27---what homes will be lost? None to my knowledge---separate where the ballpark is going from additonal study areas for improvement.
You can see my house in this satelite photo and there are no homes in the shaded area designated for the ballpark. Dozens of businesses, however, lay this this area, including the space designated for Los Gatos park. Interestingly enough, or not, there is new construction going on in the area designated as Study Area D. As a resident of the shaded areas south of the Alameda, redevelopment, particulalrly south of Park, would be a very welcome thing.
I think what anon 6:27 meant was that the City of San Jose shouldn't be paying for a new stadium while people are losing homes... argue with that logic all you want, but I would only point out that this is not exactly a good representation of what is on the table.
Pretty over ambitious plan when the most we're ever going to see at Diridon South is a Super Walmart
That plan looks great! Kudos to the San Jose government for the vision and initiative.
Well, we can only aspire to someday have a giant Denny's like the one which is the linchpin of the $2 billion Coliseum South plan. In the meantime, we'll be happy with our Walmart (and ballpark).
A Super Walmart? What a San Franciscan comment. Go picket something.
So R.M.,
There will be a future park where the current fire training center is, and not a ballpark parking garage? Now that's awesome! And hopefully the new San Carlos St. bridge over LG Creek/train line will be an iconic structure (Sydney Harbour Bridge?) to go with the new yard, train station.
Can't wait for all this to come to fruition! By the way, I hear the new Transbay Terminal will have Northern California's first BUY 'N' LARGE!
Super Walmart at Diridon? Now that's funny!
Woah everyone. Nothing is even close to being finalized yet. There may be a park at the fire training site, there may be parking, maybe both. There's a chance that HSR tracks will run elevated through the fire training site, as Union Pacific has been insistent on not sharing tracks with HSR south of Diridon station. One potential casualty may be the "original" Orchard Supply Hardware store on San Carlos. Lots of stuff to work out.
By the way R.M.,
In the Anaheim picture: where do those elevated monorails go to? Or are those the actual HSR tracks?
I notice the current Pavilion parking lot is slated for HSR parking in this graphic. Would that lot become a multi-use, multi-level parking structure?
ML- How 'bout an Alameda ballpark. The city Alameda, not the county Alameda.
No chance of it ever happening in Alameda. Bridge/tunnel system are not meant to handle acute high levels of traffic. A new bridge from Oakland would be prohibitively expensive. Plus there's a nasty NIMBY factor at work there.
ML-Any news yet on the MLB meeting with Oakland after the All-Star Break? YOu know, Bud Selig said Mr. Dupuy would meet with the city shortly when he was at the Town Hall Meeting.
Ray Ratto has expressed doubt on the radio about whether the A's have the money to build in San Jose. When you met with Wolff did you ask him about how he would pay for a ballpark?
6:25 - Haven't heard a thing.
Jesse - Heard Ratto's bit with the Razor today. I don't have an exact quote, but Wolff basically said that money to build a ballpark is not a concern. That's all he'd say.
It really comes down to this. Ratto argues that the group may not have the money, yet he also says that since they're owners they're filthy stinking rich. They aren't going to go out of pocket a half billion to get it done. It's going to get done the same way every large ballpark get built - by financing it. The market isn't going to care if your investment group is worth $2 billion or $4 billion.
Gotta love Ray Ratto--guys like reads like a cheap tabloid with the latest gossip--and what does Ray base his comments on?
What Ray should be advocating is to remove the TR issue and than lets see if LW and San Jose can pull it off--but throwing around factless comments is what makes Ray Ratto so useless in the Bay Area sports world
Trash Ray Ratto all you want. But you know darn well that if he suddenly took a pro-SJ position, you all would be crying that he deserves the Pulitzer Prize.
....which by the way, Mark Purdy has never won :)
The last sportswriter to win a Pulitzer was the late Jim Murray nearly 20 years ago. I'd say that neither Ratto nor Purdy hold a candle to the legendary Murray, and they'd probably agree.
Actually Georob Ratto has taken a somewhat pro-SJ stance in the past--my issue with him is that LW is like a tethered dog right now--with kids throwing rocks at him--but nothing he can do because he is tethered--unleash him by allowing him to go to SJ and let's see what he can do--but in the meantime quit throwing your rocks-especially when you have no facts to support your "gossip" types of comments-
Lets be real---if he doesn't have the money to pull off SJ than Neukom ought to be rushing to "cash out" on the TR issue--make a pretty penny for the Gints (offset that Zito committment) while nothing will happen in SJ anyway because LW/A's/SJ can't afford it?
Rob,
All Ratto stated was that he didn't believe Wolff had the money to build a ballpark. That's neither pro or anti-San Jose. If Wolff himself said money is no concern, then I'll go with that (money no concern? Must be nice!).
And for the record, Ratto's been pretty pro-reality over the past three years; i.e. San Jose get's its act together, presents MLB/Lew Wolff with a kick-a$$ ballpark plan and the T-Rights fall like a deck of cards.
Is blue ribbon panel doing the equivalent to a feasibility study that Wolff wanted initially in the Coli parking lot?
AFAIK, No. It's just the panel gathering already available historical data. I don't think they're hiring out firms to do additional study. That's an expensive set of tasks and I wouldn't expect MLB to go out of pocket to do that.
the blimp hanger design of anahiem looks like it would be energy inefficent. it is too big to air condition, maybe mounted at 20 ft on the sides the vents would let cold air go down, but all that glass and room above the vents would be hot air.
it's incorporating anything to save energy, its all design and throw money at it. it does look like a blimp hanger, and those don't look so nice(resembles new transbay terminal, although this is a newballpark blog.
Actually, 5:03, this is potentially a very green building form. You get lots of your lighting for free, and the heat stratifies at the top, where it's easy to vent.
outside of topic:
it's been a really long time since Selig said that his blue ribbon committee will deliver a report of the Ballpark situation.
ML - have you heard anything from your 'sources'?
Nope. The simplest explanation is that with the ballpark vote delayed, there isn't the same kind of urgency for any of the parties.
R.M.,
Any idea when SJ's revised EIR will come out?
My feeling is that nothing will get going again (in terms of news) until SJ comes out with the EIR and a true ballpark/Diridon Station plan; much like Santa Clara has done with the proposed Niners stadium.
Lastly, the State raid on redevelopment monies: any effect on Diridon development? I'd say no effect, as the ballpark/upgraded train station is to important of an economic stimulus to pass up. In other words, give it a priority over other redevelopment projects.
Diridon development has three main components, not necessarily linked as projects: BART, high-speed rail, and the ballpark.
BART may never reach SJ. HSR and the ballpark are independent of one another, and may be on different timetables. HSR is a project of statewide scope, BART has fully regional effect, and the ballpark is more local in its influence.
All three of these just happen to be near one another, but that doesn't make them a single, indivisible superproject.
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