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17 November 2005

Scout.com/Yahoo article

I just finished a summary of the A's current ballpark situation for OaklandClubhouse.com (scout.com). They've also posted the piece on Yahoo! Sports. Oh dear, I really need to proofread my pieces a little more thoroughly...

10 comments:

tony d. said...

Great article R.M.!!

peanut gallery said...

Excellent work Rhamesis! Very well written and quite comprehensive.

If you ever want a second set of eyes to help proofread future articles, just let me know. It's something in which I have a fair bit of experience. And I know how hard it is to catch things when you've read a piece a million times.

Georob said...

Kudos from me too, Rhamesis, Vertigo, Marinelayer, or whatever you want to be called as long as it's not late for supper :)

Your argument for San Jose appears to be getting stronger with each successive posting. However, you've also laid some pretty convincing evidence as to why the Giants should fight like hell to keep their territorial rights.

Bud Selig has let it slip on more than one occaison that he feels moving the A's to Oakland was a mistake. Still he appears to be leaving a tiny bit of "wiggle room"(in his comments) for a South Bay deal. Therefore, it makes me wonder if MLB has serious doubts about the viability of Portland, Vegas, or any other market that wants a team.

You also seem confident that Selig is unlikely to revisit contraction. I'm not sure I agree with that. In the end, I think a San Jose deal happens only if EVERY OTHER alternative is undoable(including contraction)

murf said...

Nice work RM! It's good to see your work on this topic aknowledged and published. As PG said, if you ever want a second set of eyes, feel free to call on us.

Anonymous said...

Excellent article. I don't agree with georob that there is a strong San Jose argument. Instead, I thought it was an excellent comprehensive piece on the situation as a whole.

Kevin said...

Great article RM.

I agree with georob in that you make a pretty good case as to why the Giants should fight for their territorial rights to SC. Territorial rights along with voter approval will be the hardest nuts to crack.

Marine Layer said...

One of the things I had to explain to the scout.com people was that I wasn't going to "handicap" any city's chances because I didn't feel I had the knowledge or authority to do so. There are so many factors that go into whether a team stays or goes, rules that are enforced, bent, or broken, so the thing I can do is put out as much information as I get my hands on.

tony d. said...

R.M.,
In regards to your article...wouldn't you agree that game attendance has more to do with a team winning, vs. if another team exists in the market. The whole territorial argument appears to stem from "butts in the seat" arguments...your team will steal fans from my team. But if you look across the baseball realm, you will see many single market teams (even with new retro ballparks) where attendance is horrible because the product is horrible. If Magowan is so worried about AT&T's attendance in the coming years, he should focus on putting a winning team on the field...not some team possibly existing 50 miles away.

Marine Layer said...

That's a good argument, but no owner wants to hear any of that. The whole point of the getting a fancy new pad is to insulate the team from the backlash caused by poor on-field performance by putting in better amenities and by locking fans up with seat licenses. It's not an argument that holds water to them because to them, on-field performance is a variable they can control the least.

Georob said...

Whether they be large or small markets, comparing the A's to ANY single market team is a waste of time. The A's "share" a market with the Giants which leaves NY, LA, Chicago, and possibly Baltimore/DC as the only reasonable comparisons out there.

If the A's had even the smallest baseball market to themselves, they would at least have all print and broadcast media to themselves; with no competition to worry about if they ever decided to embark upon an extended rebuilding program.

Not the case here, which is why Billy Beane always strives to field a competetive team for the regular season instead of making riskier moves to try and get the A's deep into the post season.