tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post1626665582128638471..comments2023-10-16T03:27:54.609-07:00Comments on new A's ballpark: Column conundrumMarine Layerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13515986023439927575noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-42033472813535124802007-08-13T16:48:00.000-07:002007-08-13T16:48:00.000-07:00Having spent time in Boston, I can tell you that p...Having spent time in Boston, I can tell you that poles are terrible. But you cost-benefit analysis is sound, and the A's could sell the pole seats on game day at a discount.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-70591232270302965812007-08-13T12:18:00.000-07:002007-08-13T12:18:00.000-07:00I very rarely sit in the first level -- so as a cu...I very rarely sit in the first level -- so as a current Oakland A's fan -- I'm all for a few columns.Devinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11864841767399887932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-66009317244302863022007-08-08T00:03:00.000-07:002007-08-08T00:03:00.000-07:00fc - I expressed those same concerns in November. ...fc - I expressed those same concerns in November. The alternate version I've seen doesn't entirely split the upper and lower sections. The upper sections are still raised to give a "front row" appearance, but the field should still be accessible - at least down the lines. Vomitories provide access to the club sections from the club concourse.<BR/><BR/>It should be a more commonplace layout as a result. That's not to say that what I've seen is final, but at least they have considered something more traditional.Marine Layerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515986023439927575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-57822681841406801612007-08-07T21:50:00.000-07:002007-08-07T21:50:00.000-07:00ML,I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation. ...ML,<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation. I reviewed the artist's renderings on the A's website, and to me it looks as though the upper field level section has been eliminated. I see a Club level extending up from the field 15-20 rows. Then a row of suites. There doesn't appear to be any seats above the suites with access to the field.FChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00340357860917033507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-83441419606370064832007-08-07T20:43:00.000-07:002007-08-07T20:43:00.000-07:00Afraid not, fc. Feel free to comment again.Afraid not, fc. Feel free to comment again.Marine Layerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515986023439927575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-26676236289479292232007-08-07T18:37:00.000-07:002007-08-07T18:37:00.000-07:00Hey ML,Did you receive a post which I sent this mo...Hey ML,<BR/><BR/>Did you receive a post which I sent this morning? It hasn't been published yet.FChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00340357860917033507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-36861164072283690872007-08-07T12:06:00.000-07:002007-08-07T12:06:00.000-07:00Tony - I think they could borrow from Petco. The t...Tony - I think they could borrow from Petco. The trusses used for Petco's second/third decks are enormous and take up a lot of concourse space. That's a compromise that had to be made to ensure that there'd be no columns. Tradeoffs are everywhere.<BR/><BR/>When everything's built, it's not going to remotely resemble a vast suburban field. It's in their interest to efficiently plan out space, including the main element, the ballpark. And yes, the views of the field should be much, much better.Marine Layerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515986023439927575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-87212889033310194062007-08-07T10:42:00.000-07:002007-08-07T10:42:00.000-07:00Another question R.M.: Why is this park being desi...Another question R.M.: Why is this park being designed as if it's being shoe horned into a 12 acre downtown site? C'mon...are the views from the upper deck at Cisco really going to be that much better than the upper deck at AT&T? It's not as if AT&T's upper deck views are on par with Mt. Davis. Why not design Cisco Field as if it were being built in a vast suburban field in Fremont? Now there's a thought!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-75751624642815581232007-08-07T08:34:00.000-07:002007-08-07T08:34:00.000-07:00R.M.,Don't like the columns. Why not do what was ...R.M.,<BR/>Don't like the columns. Why not do what was done down at Petco Park; cantilevered upper decks. The second deck at Petco appears to jut way over the lower deck, without the use of old school columns! Hey, I thought Cisco Field was going to be a modern ballpark ala the Nationals new stadium...this thing is looking more and more retro every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-82491849970563312752007-08-07T00:59:00.000-07:002007-08-07T00:59:00.000-07:00zonis - Only on occasion, and only when I need a c...zonis - Only on occasion, and only when I need a chuckle. That Rev's a riot.<BR/><BR/>fc - I've seen different projections that have club seats run from dugout to dugout, with the remainder of down-the-line seats being non-club. <BR/><BR/>So the way to look at it is this: take the Coliseum field level and lop off the last 8 rows. Move the circulation aisle down 5 rows and put the minisuites in the middle. Club section runs dugout-to-dugout (a la MVP). Lower field level runs down the lines - 15 rows. Upper field level is the upper 15 rows. I don't consider upper field level (with the columns) the second deck because it's virtually the same elevation as the Coliseum upper field level and will have access to the field. Regardless, upper field level should automatically be better because there are fewer rows.<BR/><BR/>Does that answer your question?Marine Layerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515986023439927575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-10620352226359249912007-08-06T23:47:00.000-07:002007-08-06T23:47:00.000-07:00ML,In not so sure whether current season tickethol...ML,<BR/><BR/>In not so sure whether current season ticketholder sitting the Infield Field Level seats will be happy when it comes time to select seats at Cisco. <BR/><BR/>It would appear (and I may be totally wrong) that the Infield Field Level seats will be non-existent at Cisco, as they will be replaced with the 4-person suites. As a result, anyone holding season tickets in the Field Level section will either have to move down into the more expensive MVP/Club seats (not to mention further down the baselines), or move upstairs to the second deck. So though the view from the second deck at Cisco may be better when compared to ATT, I question whether it will be better than sitting in the Field Level seats at the Colesium.<BR/><BR/>Am I seeing the diagram correctly?FChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00340357860917033507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432525.post-24339607835545577632007-08-06T22:49:00.000-07:002007-08-06T22:49:00.000-07:00I didn't know you ready HH, ML?I didn't know you ready HH, ML?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com